EVE Search - Cant they just start the war already!


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Darius Shakor	Posted - 2003.12.01 23:47:00 - [1] Quote: There are of course not everyone who likes pvp. This is a pvp game though so I guess they can¦t complain. I don't really look at this as simply a pvp game. Sure it has pvp elements in it and that makes it interesting, but it's not a true pvp game. More of a combo game where you can decide what you want to do, not have it forced upon you. As it stands now, people have a choice. Want pvp? go to 0.0 space and let it fly. If not, stay in empire space of 0.5 and above and mine. Now a game like Counter strike or Unreal is what I term as a pvp game. Afterall, it's not like you can rack up points in Counter Strike by buying the shovle instead of a gun and digging for gold is it? On the subject of war, sure they need a back story, but the gaps between them are rather long and could have been done quicker in retrospect. And despite what I have sad above, don't think of me as one of those who cry when they get shot at by another player and instantly shout "GREIFER!!" Here are my thoughts on what the war should be like with regards to empire space. Firstly, by the end of the war, you need a big winner and a big loser, and I expect to see the whole face of the eve map changed. For example, nations that came under seige the most might have moved their outer boarders more into the unclaimed space as their shared boarders haveb been taken. I hope to see vast neutral and demiliterized zones popping up with heavy CONCORD presence along war-torn boarders. During the war, gradually, the sec status of systems along the front lined should drop rappidly leaving only a core of empire space that is safe. (Keep the noobs from getting blown out of the sky as soon as they load for the first time or they will be short lived customers.) Actually, what I would like is to log off one night in minmatar space, then log back on in the morning in war ravaged low sec space with the station on fire, guns and fleet ships reppeling an invasion force, scared for my life in the harsh crossfire and getting locked up by an enemy race attack wing, npc or player. Just some thoughts....... ------ Analysis[Ceasefire]....Complete - 'Term given to the act of firing, causing the ceasation of the life it is directed at
Darius Shakor Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2003.12.01 23:47:00 - [2] Quote: There are of course not everyone who likes pvp. This is a pvp game though so I guess they can¦t complain. I don't really look at this as simply a pvp game. Sure it has pvp elements in it and that makes it interesting, but it's not a true pvp game. More of a combo game where you can decide what you want to do, not have it forced upon you. As it stands now, people have a choice. Want pvp? go to 0.0 space and let it fly. If not, stay in empire space of 0.5 and above and mine. Now a game like Counter strike or Unreal is what I term as a pvp game. Afterall, it's not like you can rack up points in Counter Strike by buying the shovle instead of a gun and digging for gold is it? On the subject of war, sure they need a back story, but the gaps between them are rather long and could have been done quicker in retrospect. And despite what I have sad above, don't think of me as one of those who cry when they get shot at by another player and instantly shout "GREIFER!!" Here are my thoughts on what the war should be like with regards to empire space. Firstly, by the end of the war, you need a big winner and a big loser, and I expect to see the whole face of the eve map changed. For example, nations that came under seige the most might have moved their outer boarders more into the unclaimed space as their shared boarders haveb been taken. I hope to see vast neutral and demiliterized zones popping up with heavy CONCORD presence along war-torn boarders. During the war, gradually, the sec status of systems along the front lined should drop rappidly leaving only a core of empire space that is safe. (Keep the noobs from getting blown out of the sky as soon as they load for the first time or they will be short lived customers.) Actually, what I would like is to log off one night in minmatar space, then log back on in the morning in war ravaged low sec space with the station on fire, guns and fleet ships reppeling an invasion force, scared for my life in the harsh crossfire and getting locked up by an enemy race attack wing, npc or player. Just some thoughts....... ------ Shakor Clan Information Portal
Darius Shakor	Posted - 2003.12.02 11:12:00 - [3] I was thinking the same about player involvement. The way I see it, it could work in one of 2 ways, or even both. 1. Players of one race, eg minmatar, can freely open fire on npc ships of another race that they are at war with without sec rating loss and UberConcord sinking their fangs in every 5 mins as long as those enemy ships are invading your races space or in some kind of disputed zone/unclaimed space. 2. Agents that work for one of your empires militaries, (maybe lvl 2+ or lvl 3 agents only), send you on npc kill missions into battle zones to intercept scouting parties or even enemy race cruisers or battleships in the case of lvl 3 agents. There might be a few holes in this idea, but it is a good base to work on. ------ Analysis[Ceasefire]....Complete - 'Term given to the act of firing, causing the ceasation of the life it is directed at
Darius Shakor Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2003.12.02 11:12:00 - [4] I was thinking the same about player involvement. The way I see it, it could work in one of 2 ways, or even both. 1. Players of one race, eg minmatar, can freely open fire on npc ships of another race that they are at war with without sec rating loss and UberConcord sinking their fangs in every 5 mins as long as those enemy ships are invading your races space or in some kind of disputed zone/unclaimed space. 2. Agents that work for one of your empires militaries, (maybe lvl 2+ or lvl 3 agents only), send you on npc kill missions into battle zones to intercept scouting parties or even enemy race cruisers or battleships in the case of lvl 3 agents. There might be a few holes in this idea, but it is a good base to work on. ------ Shakor Clan Information Portal
Darius Shakor	Posted - 2003.12.08 17:19:00 - [5] Edited by: Darius Shakor on 08/12/2003 17:26:23 Edited by: Darius Shakor on 08/12/2003 17:23:36 I doubt that they would devide up. Afterall, what would be their role in their new host navy? They can't exactly fight against the other empires can they? With regard to Concord, I do not think they will disband entirely, but they would be forced to take a backseat in the affairs of law enfocement in each empire as security will no doubt be turned over to the military in a state of martial law. Plus I can imagine that some empires would not want Concord in their back yard for several reasons. 1. Crossfire. No one wants to blow up a neutral ship in an act of friendly fire (Or blue on blue as they now call it). 2. Distrust of their loyalty. Concord pilots come from one of the 4 major races afterall. I doubt that in a war, the Minmatar will want Amarr concord pilots in battleships in their space. 3. With that in mind, accusations of espionage and spying will be thrown around at both individual pilots due to their race, and the concord assembly in general. Corcords roll should be that of mediator in desputes and providing a neutral ground (Yulai?) for peace talks and negotiations. Afterall, wars rage all the time but there are constant communications between leaderships of all parties and alliances. And while the war will be of great concern to Concord, they will want to plan for the peace and rebuild after the war whenever it ends. That means they must attempt to stay neutral no matter what so people will trust them with their future when the dust settles. Now I have another idea too. With the redesign of the website, I feel that the addition of the ingame news to the public domain is a good thing. However in a war situation, prospective buyers might want to see the state of the war too. Take a look at this online game site here Planet Side To the mods, I know all about the rules of posting on other games so I will leave it there, just please don't lock this thread as it is a valid point I want to make with regard to eve On the front page of this site, there is a political map for all to see, players or not, regarding the state of governence in the various regions. How about something like this for each region in eve showing who owns what and where the war zones are? This is good for 2 reasins at least: 1. As above, prospecive buyers can see the action and get tempted to buy the game more (Good business and advertising) 2. Current players can check the region they are in while not online so that when they do come online they know if they are going to be safe or in the middle of a batlefeild. Anyway, some more thoughts there for you to bat around. ------ Analysis[Ceasefire]....Complete - 'Term given to the act of firing, causing the ceasation of the life it is directed at
Darius Shakor Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2003.12.08 17:19:00 - [6] Edited by: Darius Shakor on 08/12/2003 17:26:23 Edited by: Darius Shakor on 08/12/2003 17:23:36 I doubt that they would devide up. Afterall, what would be their role in their new host navy? They can't exactly fight against the other empires can they? With regard to Concord, I do not think they will disband entirely, but they would be forced to take a backseat in the affairs of law enfocement in each empire as security will no doubt be turned over to the military in a state of martial law. Plus I can imagine that some empires would not want Concord in their back yard for several reasons. 1. Crossfire. No one wants to blow up a neutral ship in an act of friendly fire (Or blue on blue as they now call it). 2. Distrust of their loyalty. Concord pilots come from one of the 4 major races afterall. I doubt that in a war, the Minmatar will want Amarr concord pilots in battleships in their space. 3. With that in mind, accusations of espionage and spying will be thrown around at both individual pilots due to their race, and the concord assembly in general. Corcords roll should be that of mediator in desputes and providing a neutral ground (Yulai?) for peace talks and negotiations. Afterall, wars rage all the time but there are constant communications between leaderships of all parties and alliances. And while the war will be of great concern to Concord, they will want to plan for the peace and rebuild after the war whenever it ends. That means they must attempt to stay neutral no matter what so people will trust them with their future when the dust settles. Now I have another idea too. With the redesign of the website, I feel that the addition of the ingame news to the public domain is a good thing. However in a war situation, prospective buyers might want to see the state of the war too. Take a look at this online game site here Planet Side To the mods, I know all about the rules of posting on other games so I will leave it there, just please don't lock this thread as it is a valid point I want to make with regard to eve On the front page of this site, there is a political map for all to see, players or not, regarding the state of governence in the various regions. How about something like this for each region in eve showing who owns what and where the war zones are? This is good for 2 reasins at least: 1. As above, prospecive buyers can see the action and get tempted to buy the game more (Good business and advertising) 2. Current players can check the region they are in while not online so that when they do come online they know if they are going to be safe or in the middle of a batlefeild. Anyway, some more thoughts there for you to bat around. ------ Shakor Clan Information Portal

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